You have to try the 157 stab. It goes very well with the 550, 700 and even the 850!
Hi there, here my 2 cents,:
Having started with the 850 cloud 9 in January this year with the 197 stab.
Coming from the kujira line with the ,980 as my go-to wing, only winging mainly on lakes and some time on the Atlantic coast in France.
The new go-to foil is the 850!!! So much more glide, control and carving fun! Rider weight is 73kg, mostly with 5/3 wetsuit, harness, boots, except for now thru summer…
Stabs with the 850:
197: used in second position from front. Enormous lift and great pump ability, very stable. Used in lighter wind
Ap3dcustom: mako 172 used mostly on second position from front. More playful, carvy and still good to pump, nice turns.
157: used twice so far in last position from front and the one before. Def. more loose and the foil becomes even more alive. Great carving! Loose some pump…
I can go in light wind 8-12 kn with 78l board and 6.5 wing with the 850 and stay up all the time, the glide is so phenomenal that still in those conditions tacks, jibes, 360 up or downwind all work since u have so much time to finish them.
And you can go out in 30 kn and still have a blast. Also in the waves to chest high it’s fantastic!
The 550 I use from 20kn on and recently added the 700 which might work from 15kn depending on the board.
I prefer to use my Armstrong 4’10,39l when ever possible since it’s so much more reactive and fun( start possible with the 850 with 5m wing at 12kn)
The low stall speed is amazing! For the 850 I would compare it to a 1100 cm2 foil from other brand and also the getting on foil(similar to my kujira 1095), but with the advantage of super carving.
Absolute smooth and silent glide! And the turning is fantastic where you can fully push and hard carve! I compare it to snow board carving feeling.
The radius is determined by the foil size and the stab to a smaller degree.
For our conditions here in Switzerland on lakes with mostly gusty winds and lulls it’s the perfect weapon to have as much fun as possible. And it’s easy to ride, no technical difficulty, just plug and play.
If you love a playful yet controlled silent glide with a awesome carving style then this foil is for u.
I enjoy it each time again,
Have fun on the water
No affiliation to any brand, just a regular customer who wants to enjoy himself as much as possible and of course a little foil addict